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Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Background: I'm having problem with my barbell squats as I have lower back pain when squatting with barbells Watching myself in the mirror I see that my form is way off (my ass swings to the left).

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James Smith
• Thursday, 24 December, 2020
• 5 min read
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View Entire Discussion (3 Comments)More posts from the Fitness community I’ve been sitting down in my life for a lot longer than I’d like to admit and seeing studies stating that a sedentary lifestyle is worse than smoking has motivated me to try and become more active, but I am curious: is any damage I’ve done to my body by being sedentary reversible by becoming active?

So basically I’m actively trying to get better at running and lose about 30 lbs of fat (for now) off my body. I started running around March of this year and improved dramatically, losing about 30 pounds (combined with dietary restrictions) and improving my run time and pace.

I guess I’m the only one who can really judge that but I don’t want all the issues lots of high-impact cardio can bring. Get your dunce hats out, Fit tit, it's time for your weekly Stupid Questions Thread.

Anyone can post a question and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. I posted on here a couple of months ago that I struggle with my bench due to having very long arms, and I was wondering about the merits of breathing into the chest to shorten the range of motion, compared to breathing into the belly like you would in a Squat or Dead lift.

Elites have recently made a video on YouTube specifically addressing bench press for long climbed lifters, saying that breathing into the chest is a good idea. Post your questions here related to your diet and nutrition or your training routine and exercises.

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Anyone can post a question and the community as a whole is invited and encouraged to provide an answer. Other good resources to check first are Era.net for exercise-related topics and Examine.com for nutrition and supplement science.

If you are posting a routine critique request, make sure you follow the guidelines for including enough detail. (Please note: This is not a place for general small talk, chit-chat, jokes, memes, “Dear Diary” type comments, shit posting, or non-fitness questions.

I’ve watched some videos about the benefits of RIR and RPE, and I think it’s a great system. A lot of people say to use those methods, so you don’t always train to failure, as it doesn’t promote any more hypertrophy but just more fatigue.

As a tyro at barbell exercise, I'm nowhere near being ready to compare it with SAS (for instance). Barbell : limit strength, maximum tension, the skill of bracing, that weird CNS fatigue feeling after heavy lifting, a feeling of sturdiness, finding the body's angles of force production Kettle bell : agility, movement, power, quickness, precision, flow, conditioning, endless variety

Even though I didn’t want to, I’ve jumped from SAS over to StrongLifts for a while just to see if I like barbell work. Something I’m realizing is that for pure strength and muscle you really can’t beat the barbell.

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A big plus for kettle bells I’ve found though is you can throw together a 20-minute tough complex to cover strength, cardio, and mobility. Trying to cover that with barbells + external cardio and there’s no way you’d keep it under that 20 minute mark.

Barbells are really cool to move huge weights with and skyrocket absolute strength and build muscle. When my goals changed so did my training and I traded in barbells for calisthenics.

Lots of fun with calisthenics and pull ups really made my life easier and back bridges fixed my back pain. Hadn't considered kettle bells a strength tool before. Barbells pros: Absolute strength, muscle building, lifts are easy to learn, heavy weights are cool !

Cons: Workouts are long and tend to get boring, requires a lot of material, strength gained is very domain specific Kettle bell pros: not so much material needed, efficient tool, ballistics are easier with bells, can be used as you would use a dumbbell.

WTH effects cons: increasing weights is harder, muscle building can't beat barbells or calisthenics, I find working out with kettle bells harder than barbells, kettle bell instantly punishes mistakes (could be pro) but makes it require a teacher which isn't convenient I want super strength outside the gym too and I feel programs like SAS just do better at that than lifting heavy barbells.

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The feeling of pulling a heavy weight from a dead start is unique and special. I don't get a similar feeling of accomplishment through squats, bench pressing or whatever, no matter how heavy you load them up.

Getting stronger in the basic barbell lifts certainly increased my ability outside the gym a lot, but I have at least to some degree have to say that I share Shawn's experience that a good amount of the strength you gain is “gym strength”. I already said this in the barbell strength carryover”-thread, but working with KB's in some weird way unlocked my strength for the real world outside the gym and I experienced big time WTH effects.

There is still the obvious benefit for barbells that they are the best and most time efficient tool for absolute strength. I could write a paper on the differences, benefits and my theories for barbells and KB's, but I won't comment further on the pros and cons for both implements, because it's all very specific from person to person. It may have gone completely different if I had started with KB's and worked with barbells afterwards or would have gone with calisthenics for 1 or 2 years.

Take a person who starts with KB's, goes on to achieve Sinister, complete the Top, then Rock and then spends years training with calisthenics until he/she achieves very advanced body weight skills. The kettle bell power movements are a bit easier to get a hang of compared to the barbell ones.

For me, barbell = cycles of fatigue and recovery based on incremental load and relatively infrequent sessions Kettlbell = little fatigue, little recovery, fixed weight (then giant change in load), and relatively frequent sessions

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Should be paired with some mobility work to avoid the “gym strength syndrome”. Contrary to popular gym belief, it can be programmed in a way that do not beat you up!

As good as a barbell for upper body strength for most people, as the point of diminishing return is low enough to be reached with kettle bells. Intensity evaluation have to be by exercise difficulty (leverage, height, etc), while KB and BB simply have different weights.

I spent 4 hours yesterday doing laborious work around my yard — digging, carrying heavy things, etc, and I'm glad I'm dead lifting 280lbs these days! They lack cardio and mobility though, which need to be trained somehow, even if it's going on long walks or jogs or hikes.

Back squat makes me harder to push when I have to shield the ball, and bench press makes me comfortable using elbows to hit my opponents (aka dirty play). Dead lift and overhead press are harder to explain.I only do swing, snatch, globe squat and get up with kettle bell.

My changing direction is improved and I recover faster between burst.

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1 www.reddit.com - https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3oloa4/squats_kettlebells_vs_barbell/
2 www.strongfirst.com - https://www.strongfirst.com/community/threads/benefits-of-barbells-and-kettlebells-compared.10737/